That’s much clearer and I think I’m here nodding at all of it now. One point that came to mind is that in traditional soccer there are coaches and referees, just as in traditional learning there are teachers and assessments. I take it that those roles become looser and distributed in a cMOOC situation. Is there anything in D&G that would shed light on this? It’s an instance where i think one Keith Hamon probably writes better, as do others in rhizo14, but in case they do, let me know where to read it 🙂