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I’ve written and spoken before about problematic uses of terms like diversity and inclusion. Today and yesterday, my Twitter has been filled with discussion of these two contentious terms: Global South and POC. I thought I should capture some of this, and clarify it in context.
The first (Global South) came up because I shared an article about the educational philosophy of Ibn Khaldoun (Arab, founder of modern sociology, 14th century). I’ll write a summary of that article later. But the thing that exploded was the article was part of a special issue on “Doing Southern Theory”shared with me by Sukaina Walji.
The discussion was branching all over the place, but one of the key things we discussed was whether Australia counts as global South (geographically it counts and scholars from Australia often count themselves) but obviously economically, culturally (as Anglophone and Anglo majority), many of us feel…not. Discussions w Australians before showed me they see themselves and their scholarship as often peripheral in academia vs North America and UK. We discussed where Turkey lies (this is also related to a book I contributed to that used global South in the title and we were discussing, a co-editor and I, which countries were contentious).
The most useful conclusion to this discussion was…not a conclusion, but a recognition of nuance that defies labels. This article shared by Leo Havemann is excellent and brief about why Global South is a problematic term (the article used terms descriptively linaccurate, homogenizing and geographically deterministic). We often use it to mean countries that have been colonized, are economically struggling, for example, but those countries don’t actually correlate with geography in that way. It is perhaps more useful to do one of the following (my view here, but others seem to go along these terms and also the article above). Either:
- Use the terms centers and peripheries. So recognize that some countries are global centers (dominant economically, culturally, politically) but within them, those at the peripheries/margins may live in conditions more characteristic of global periphery countries. Within periphery countries (poorer, less powerful), some elites are the center and may live in conditions closer to global centers. Obviously all of these are still binaries, there is a spectrum, and economic success isn’t always coupled with cultural or political domination in every sense (think Japan, China, Saudi Arabia?)
- Be explicit about what you mean. Instead of saying North/South or East/West… clarify what you mean in the context of your scholarship. I think one would eventually have to use a shorthand term in titles and such, but one can explain what we really mean. Which dimensions are relevant to our purpose.E.g. is dominance of English languag relevant, is internet access relevant, is GDP per capita, is gender equality, is literacy level? These questions also matter for funding decisions and who gets included in research. I am part of an organization that uses the term South Mediterranean countries and it kinda drives me nuts coz it excludes many countries of similar background (Arab/Islamic countries) just because it doesn’t have borders on the Mediterranean . It also confuses me about Israel because supposedly Egypt, Palestine, Jordan, Lebanon and Syria are “southern Mediterranean” but Israel is smack in the middle there and considered what… Western European??
If you want to follow the Twitter convo, it stated here and branched
Finally getting round to reading about Ibn Khaldoun's theory of education and possible application to contemporary multicultural contexts – thanks to @sukainaw for recommending this entire special issue of Doing Southern Theoryhttps://t.co/vvTcu2JQTi
— ℳąhą Bąℓi, PhD مها بالي 🌵 (@Bali_Maha) April 27, 2019
Now onto the one about POC. This came up privately, after I tweeted about how Google scholar is recommending to me authors to fellow, all of whom are white males (first page) and still males (second page).
Google scholar did a strange thing. It recommended to me particular people to follow. Many of them are people whose work i do indeed follow. All of them were white men. I know who I cite in my scholarship, and it's not mostly white men. What gives? What algorithm is this? pic.twitter.com/nQxawZuSJq
— ℳąhą Bąℓi, PhD مها بالي 🌵 (@Bali_Maha) April 27, 2019
Now there’s an interesting discussion around how Google’s algorithm works to make these recommendations… but I wanna talk here about POC as a term because i said “white”.
I’m going to keep this quick, coz I gotta go, so I’ll include two tweets I used to represent two viewpoints about POC because I was always confused by whether i should apply it to myself when I’m not technically able to tick any ethnicity box in any application…
On POC identity – "why are you reducing a political designation to a biological destiny? That’s what white supremacy wants you to do. And I think it’s a setback when we disintegrate as POC around primitive ethnic claiming" Loretta Ross, cited herehttps://t.co/AfUkIH7ABY
— ℳąhą Bąℓi, PhD مها بالي 🌵 (@Bali_Maha) April 28, 2019
BUT Maxine Beneba Clarke (same article
“The term [POC] is powerful in terms of a unifying banner and political consciousness or alignment. The danger is, tho, that within the broad scope of the term, the more specific individual needs of various groups are diluted, or forgotten”.— ℳąhą Bąℓi, PhD مها بالي 🌵 (@Bali_Maha) April 28, 2019
What do you think?
Added later. Some useful links shared on Twitter in reaction:
Are Arabs and Iranians white (this article explains the paradox of being counted as white but not being treated with that privilege):
https://twitter.com/ParisaMehran/status/1122584271808540674?s=19
How We Became White (on how olive-skinned Europeans were not always considered white):
This reminds me of this blog I read a few years ago and still resonates: “How We Became White” @catherinetemma1 https://t.co/MhH3GIjxvD
— Rusul (@RusulAlrubail) April 28, 2019
And AAPA statement on race and racism shared by Paul Prinsloo
"the Western concept of race must be understood as a classification system that emerged from, and in support of, European colonialism, oppression, and discrimination. It thus does not have its roots in biological reality, but in policies of discrimination"https://t.co/45Ph0E0v8F
— ℳąhą Bąℓi, PhD مها بالي 🌵 (@Bali_Maha) April 29, 2019
This quote picked out by Sherri Spelic
"Over our history, the AAPA, and many of its members, have been complicit in producing and reifying racist ideologies via the misuse, falsification, or biased production of scientific information." Wow. 👏🏾
— Sherri Spelic (@edifiedlistener) April 30, 2019
(2) Except for the use of race, there were several other issues as well pertaining to the published research which, ironically, had ethical clearance. The following article has a link to the article as well as the petition – kfm.co.za/articles/2019/…
I think I’m still stuck on the assumption that we can still do the work of seeing global privilege best at nation-state level, in the era of the internet. Nations/countries are such misleading containers.
We need a different way of talking about privilege and disadvantage.
Thanks for sharing these thoughts @Bali_Maha Last week a huge furore broke out in the South African context re an academic article focusing on a particular subset of the population using race. A reference was made to the AAPA statement on race & racism – physanth.org/about/position…
I’ve been thinking about this too. My suggestion was “post-colonized,” but your point about clarifying terms in context is important. (Some of the countries mentioned as “global south” exceptions may be less “post-colonized” and more “currently colonizing…”)